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ARG's avatar

How did you come to be gender critical? When did you figure out that the media has been lying to you, misrepresenting the truth, omitting important perspectives from their coverage? Have you ever considered that the same media that propagandizes about gender might also propagandize about other issues? Do you ever wonder what else they report on over and over again in a way that conceals the truth rather than illuminates it? I’m not interested in arguing with a stranger on the internet so will not be engaging further, same as I don’t try to convince anyone that believes gender affirming care is real medicine that they have been misled by their institutions. But, let’s just say Queers for Palestine is not an accident ok?

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Craig Verdi's avatar

Well screw that! I guess they need to be the 52nd or 53rd state now.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

Great article, Iris! I had no idea this stuff was going on in Iceland.

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GenCrit in N. California's avatar

I'm dismayed by this article. Specifically, by conflating condemnation of Israel and its genocidal war against Palestinians, with "Jew hating." This is nonsense. It is quite possible to condemn a country's policies, or condemn a business's policies, without condemning the ethnicity of people in that country or business.

Indeed, a sign of a true patriot is someone who is willing to stand up to their country, and speak out, when it is doing wrong, to guide or pressure it back to doing right.

There are millions of people of conscience around the world who are horrified and speaking out against Israel's war against the Palestinian people, on behalf of the thousands of innocent Palestinians whose lives have been senselessly and unforgivably been taken by the Israeli government, and the many more whose lives are being threatened and their homes and cities destroyed.

Many who are speaking out against Israel's war are Jews of conscience, or people who in no way hate Jews.

Please stop falsely conflating objection to and boycotting of Israel with "hating Jews."

It just makes it impossible to have a reasonable conversation, and just makes you sound foolish.

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Íris Erlingsdóttir's avatar

There is no "genocidal war against 'Palestinians.'" 1# Read the Hamas policy of which they're not ashamed: “So-called peaceful solutions are a waste of time. The only solution is jihad… The Jews are the most despicable and contemptible nation to crawl upon the face of the Earth, because they have displayed hostility to Allah.”

#2 Palestinians/Palestinian nation” is a new concept. The people who now call themselves Palestinians are Arab immigrants who came to Israel from all over the Arab world in the early 20th century during the British Mandate to work in cities and on farms built by Jews. The names of many Palestinian Arabs reflect their geographical origin, f.ex. Hourani (Houran, Syria), Tzurani (Tyrus, Lebanon), Masri (Egypt). The numerous historical accounts of and references to the Six-Day War in 1967 refer to Arabs “in the area who had begun referring to themselves as Palestinians.”

https://irislee.substack.com/p/come-and-kill-the-jew

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Íris Erlingsdóttir's avatar

First of all: There is no WAR between Hamas and Israel. "War" is preceded by the "formal act of a state's legitimate government declaring hostile military activity against another." Hamas is not a state. It is a terrorist organization, whose aim is to destroy Israel and murder the Jewish people, and to this end it has engaged in continuous terrorist attacks against Israel. “Ceasefire” talk is nonsense. To have a “ceasefire,” there has to be a “war.” A deranged mob of terrorists "gliding" into a country, murdering 1,200 citizens of said country and kidnapping another 253 is not a "war” but the very definition of a terrorist attack. Please tell me how you would deal with these murderous lunatics. You would do well to study "Hamas in their own words" (Hamas, btw, are supported by over 90% of the "innocent Palestinians" you refer to): "Islam will enter…every home in the world, revealing Allah’s power… inferiority of the infidels. Hamas is leading this plan in Gaza, West Bank… Muslim Brotherhood is leading it everywhere else. This is… Allah's predestination… Allah, take the Jews, Americans and their allies…Protestant creed of Britain…the infidels, annihilate them completely…"

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Craig Verdi's avatar

If there was a genocide you may have a point. The fact that 2 million Arabs, mostly Palestinians live in Israel in peace, destroys your claim of "Genocide." Definitions are important. See the definitions from all sources. Google. You don't know who our allies are. And you don't understand the dozen or more chances that the Palestinians had to get a very good deal and chose to wage war for about about 70 years. Google it.

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Íris Erlingsdóttir's avatar

It is the frothing leftist supporters of Hamas who call Israel’s legitimate attempts to defend itself against this monstrous terrorist mob (supported by western governments, like Iceland’s) “genocide.” The Geneva Convention defines genocide "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group." The goal of Hamas, which they’re not shy about stating, is to destroy Israel and murder all Jews (as written in their own words): https://www.adl.org/resources/article/hamas-its-own-words

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Craig Verdi's avatar

Iris, quit trying to confuse us with facts and history. It will not move the brains of leftists murderers. Those brains have been glued shut at Satan’s glue factory.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

I'm dismayed by your cognitive dissonance. I read nothing about "business policies" but I did read about the fascist policy of boycotting a business over their religion, ethnicity and/or citizenship status. Stop conflating a mob forming against a Jewish-owned business with "speaking out" to stop violence.

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